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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: when they cry 于 2007-08-19, 周日 09:43:58
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先说远程偷袭
偷袭距离必须在30英尺以内，原因是：因为超过30英尺就很难瞄准了。
那么，如果一个生物的眼神特别好，能不能超过30英尺偷袭
像路飞那样，把脖子伸出去，但是手却保持在30英尺之外（不考虑脑残和被发现）能不能偷袭？
有可以代替玩家侦测的眼睛，比如我爱罗的沙之眼，那个眼睛和敌人的距离很近，那么能不能偷袭？
如果是几个巨人在作战（奥特曼军团大战怪兽军团～～），如果超过30英尺就不能偷袭，那么他们几乎没有远程偷袭伤害这一说了。
二，变身术。
变身术能改变自己形态，而且获得新形态的物理特性，装备和衣服都回被同时变形———— 疑问来了，YY一下变身术原理：变身术是改变周遭物品和自己的结构，比如变成虫族潜伏者，那么我的手必须要比不变身坚硬，要不然无法掘穴，那么可能我奖我的一部分肌肉硬化了，或者将我的武器同化成手了，但是，因为硬化了一部分，而忽略了背的硬度，所以不影响总体的AC。
那么变身术都能变那些东西？
自己看过的东西？
自己想象的东西？
能不能变成非生物，规则书上只是写改变自己的外形，那么我变成一个树妖，应该是没有问题的，既然能变成树妖，为什么不能变成树（变个树洞呼吸），为什么不能变成石头？尽管这块石头是热乎的，而且摸上去软软的。
如果能变着一些，可以进一步YY
同化自己的装备————能同化多少？
我是剑士，我拿着2把剑，同化了，那么我变成怪物之后，至少有两个爪子的硬度可以达到剑的硬度。
我是果农，我背着一筐字的苹果，那么我变成树之后，树上还能结出果子。
进一步YY
我是星际争霸里面的人族机枪兵，我变身————装备同化
我可以变成机械人（2人口，从1人口变成2人口，这个变身合理，而且我有一些机械）变身后我还可以开枪。
我是机械人呢？能不能变成坦克？（4人口）我是坦克驾驶员呢？能不能变成大和？（8人口）
当然这是一种YY，有没有规定，能同化多少装备？如果同化的装备是有限的，那么多个人合作，拿更多的材料，能不能变成比较大的物体？
最后，变身成眼睛好/脖子长的东西能不能超过30英尺远程偷袭.......
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This spell functions like alter self, except that you change the willing subject into another form of living creature.
SRD上第一句就说明了。
至于武器之类，是要看你变的生物，巨人类人外界者等有手的可以继续保留其它溶于新形体不作用
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至於偷襲距離, 首先頭手分離沒相干, 因為眼遠的話看不清, 手遠的話瞄不準. 所以真要算的話, 偶會算更遠的距離. 事實上你形容的情況跟本對正常的瞄準沒影響 - 即使你有眼在前面, 你還是要用遠程武器後面的視角去瞄準目標. (武器拿在手中的話就不受三十尺限制)
至於距離遠近, 試想像一下假若偷襲距離視目標的相對大小改變, 那麼對小的生物你要走得近才可以偷襲, 他們卻可以遠遠的偷襲你, 因為你巨大.
也許這的確很合情合理, 但這代表要在戰鬥中多查一個表. 喜歡的話, 你可以自己開團 HR, 不過偶會認為不值得.
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至於變身術的\作原理, 規則沒有說, 但效果已經被多次討論, 你的構成和裝備對變身後的構成就效果來說沒有關係. 這是大家跑團時所接納的規則.
變身的原理, DM 可能可以有自己的見解, 但除非 HR 掉否則規則不會受影響.
如果你只是想寫小說的話, 別拒泥於 D&D 規則, 自己去喜歡怎樣就怎樣.
如果你想跑團, 學習接納規則. 明白規則和規則的精神後, 你就不需要再問這些問題.
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谢谢楼上回答
那么能”溶解“的装备的体积有限么？
我能不能溶解掉一部分装备？比如一个剑，我把剑把同化了，但是剑身没有，这个可以么？
PS：物理特性包括雄性或者雌性的生理能力么...........
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規則沒說有限體積, 所以可視作無限, 但 DM 有權判定甚麼算裝備, 甚麼算獨立物品.
規則對於裝備的融合沒提及可以對裝備分部處理.
生理能力因為與冒險無關所以 D&D 規則一般不會提及, 具體可能要視乎該能力有否涉及超自然能力, 需 DM 判斷.
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根据最新的规则Polymorph基本已经被废了..........
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依然是不错的法术
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依然是不错的法术
水晶姐姐详 :em007 解
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至於偷襲距離, 首先頭手分離沒相干, 因為眼遠的話看不清, 手遠的話瞄不準. 所以真要算的話, 偶會算更遠的距離. 事?上你形容的情況跟本對正常的瞄準沒影響 - 即使你有眼在前面, 你還是要用遠程武器後面的視角去瞄準目標. (武器拿在手中的話就不受三十尺限制)
至於距離遠近, 試想像一下假若偷襲距離視目標的相對大小改變, 那麼對小的生物你要走得近才可以偷襲, 他們卻可以遠遠的偷襲你, 因為你巨大.
也許這的確很合情合理, 但這代表要在戰鬥中多查一個表. 喜歡的話, 你可以自己開團 HR, 不過偶會認為不值得.
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So... this reminds me of another question......
For a 7-level wizard, the Enlarged Fireball has a range of (400+280)*2=1360 ft, but rarely anyone can see that far(the best view range is, say, about 800ft on a fine weather). So can a wizard use fireball to attack a foe 1300 ft away? Likewise, the range of Longbow is about 120ft(may not be accurate), so a Far-shot Longbower can shoot as much as 15 multiple that number(-about 20 or so). If he cannot see, can he shoot that far?
And, with the help like Clairvoyance or Arcane Eye, can a wizard shoot a fireball to a place that he can not normally see?
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Clairvoyance / arcane eye do help.
One can see distances of several thousands ft. under certain conditions. However, the complication handling battles of large scales prevents most DMs from letting out these conditions.
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Clairvoyance / arcane eye do help.
One can see distances of several thousands ft. under certain conditions. However, the complication handling battles of large scales prevents most DMs from letting out these conditions.
Sorry, but your anwser if wrong.
line of sight: Two creatures can see each other if they have line
of sight to each other. To determine line of sight, draw an imaginary
line between your space and the target’s space. If any such line is
clear (not blocked), then you have line of sight to the creature (and it
has line of sight to you). The line is clear if it doesn’t intersect or
even touch squares that block line of sight. If you can’t see the target
(for instance, if you’re blind or the target is invisible), you can’t have
line of sight to it even if you could draw an unblocked line between
your space and the target’s
You probably won't have line of sight to someone under your Scrying or Clairvoyance spell since the line is drawn between your space and the creature, not between your spell effect's space and the creature.
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When you aim an area spell, you must choose a point of origin (see Part One) for the spell. You must have line of effect to the point of origin you choose. If you cannot see the point of origin, you must specify the point of origin in some meaningful way. The best way to do so is select a distance and a direction from yourself or from another point of reference that you can see or touch (or that your DM agrees is well known to you). The point of origin for any area spell always must be an intersection of squares on the grid you use to regulate combat. This rule greatly simplifies the task of deciding exactly where the area extends. Once you choose the point of origin, the spell's area extends from there.
Even if you cast some spells that don't require line of sight, say a Web, you still need line of effect to your target, which is almost the same with line of sight and requries the line between your space and your point of origin is clear. Thus your being able to see somebody with divination spells doesn't necessarily mean you could strike your opponent from distant places.
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You probably won't have line of sight to someone under your Scrying or Clairvoyance spell since the line is drawn between your space and the creature, not between your spell effect's space and the creature.
Well, I thought it too obvious to worth mentioning that a physical straight line without obstacle is necessary for you to throw whatever thing towards the target. :em003
I should have said those spells MAY help, though, to be accurate.
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You probably won't have line of sight to someone under your Scrying or Clairvoyance spell since the line is drawn between your space and the creature, not between your spell effect's space and the creature.
Well, I thought it too obvious to worth mentioning that a physical straight line without obstacle is necessary for you to throw whatever thing towards the target. :em003
I should have said those spells MAY help, though, to be accurate.
The spells helps to increase the range for your line of sight... doesn't alter the line of effect... however an qoe spell you'd only need to see the target.
well personally i use spyglass.....
望遠鏡 is the key. tell your friend to hold the spyglass for you and you can shoot as far as you can see...
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however an qoe spell you'd only need to see the target.
Wrong. You need line of effect too.
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Line of sight determine casting
line of effect determine hitting....
so you can cast it!!! you do not need line of effect to cast your spell... EVER
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When you aim an area spell, you must choose a point of origin (see Part One) for the spell.You must have line of effect to the point of origin you choose. If you cannot see the point of origin, you must specify the point of origin in some meaningful way. The best way to do so is select a distance and a direction from yourself or from another point of reference that you can see or touch (or that your DM agrees is well known to you). The point of origin for any area spell always must be an intersection of squares on the grid you use to regulate combat. This rule greatly simplifies the task of deciding exactly where the area extends. Once you choose the point of origin, the spell's area extends from there.
Even if you cast some spells that don't require line of sight, say a Web, you still need line of effect to your target, which is almost the same with line of sight and requries the line between your space and your point of origin is clear. Thus your being able to see somebody with divination spells doesn't necessarily mean you could strike your opponent from distant places.
Do I have to quote these words, AGAIN?
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