純美蘋果園
TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 伊夫 于 2008-04-01, 周二 14:41:33
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武僧的疾风连击下，武器伤害的力量加值全变为1倍，但是疾风连击下木棍作为双头武器，其伤害的力量加值应该是按照疾风连击的规则来，还是按照双头武器的规则来~~~求答，请详细点，举个例子，偶是新人......
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似乎应该是按双头武器来判吧……
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双头武器一般好像是将双武器的时候用的, 不过同样可以用来当双手武器用, 所以不知道楼主说的是哪种...
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A monk using one or two special monk weapons simply substitutes one attack from each weapon (or from one or both ends of a quarterstaff) as part of a full attack (including a flurry of blows). The monk need not take any penalties for off-hand or two-weapon attacks. The monk, however, does not get an extra attack from a second weapon. If the monk is using a flurry of blows, she adds her full Strength bonus to damage from any successful attack, even if she uses what normally would be her off hand, or uses one end of a quarterstaff as a two-handed weapon.
这和尚的攻击每次都要查, 好累...
手头又没有rc, 不知道上面改没有...
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http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20070410a)
说起来, 为何我看了半天又觉得这是在讲Flurry of Blows跟双武器不能一起用...
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2位，偶是英语小白，看不懂啊~~~而且你们说的话怎么全都不确定的样子.........
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因为实在不好确定嘛。
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武僧这职业最尴尬的就是，它并非不强，而是“不滥就不强”……双武疾风变身疾风也好也好兼一级骗AC也好都是几滥几滥的做法……
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If a monk is not using her flurry of blows ability, she can claim an extra attack from a second weapon. If she does, she takes all the penalties for attacking with two weapons and for attacking with off-hand weapons.
谁知道这句话是不是说和尚不用疾风才能双武啊 :em006
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感覺起來像是:
1.因為monk的徒手搏擊沒有主副手之分,所以你可以右手揮一拳,左腳踢一下,再用左手拿著的monk特殊武器打一下, 依次分別使用+x/+(x-5)/+(x-10)的攻擊加值,不用承受雙武器戰鬥減值,當然也沒有雙武器戰鬥的副手攻擊,所有攻擊的傷害都能加上完整的力量加值.
2.承上,若你用的是+y/+y/+(y-5)/+(y-10)的攻擊加值,那你必須承受雙武器戰鬥減值,且有一次+y的攻擊的傷害只能加上一半的力量加值.(假設副手只有一次攻擊)
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若再加上FoB:
1.會便成+x/+x/(+x-5)/+(x-10),其餘同上
2.會變成:+y/+y/+y/+(y-5)/+(y-10),其餘同上(但FoB的額外攻擊只能用徒手攻擊或monk特殊武器來執行;三次+y分別為主手,副手和FoB額外;一樣假設副手只有一次攻擊)
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嗯, quarterstaff要兩手拿...
沒關係, 那改成踢兩腳打一棍...... :em007
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If a monk is not using her flurry of blows ability, she can claim an extra attack from a second weapon.
我始终觉得这句话是在说fob和双武器不能共存。。。
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FAQ(v12212007,page19)這樣說:
Can a monk fight with two weapons? Can she combine
a two-weapon attack with a flurry of blows? What are her
penalties on attack rolls?
A monk can fight with two weapons just like any other
character, but she must accept the normal penalties on her
attack rolls to do so. She can use an unarmed strike as an offhand
weapon. She can even combine two-weapon fighting with
a flurry of blows to gain an extra attack with her off hand (but
remember that she can use only unarmed strikes or special
monk weapons as part of the flurry). The penalties for twoweapon
fighting stack with the penalties for flurry of blows.
For example, at 6th level, the monk Ember can normally
make one attack per round at a +4 bonus. When using flurry of
blows, she can make two attacks (using unarmed strikes or any
special monk weapons she holds), each at a +3 bonus. If she
wants to make an extra attack with her off hand, she has to
accept a –4 penalty on her primary hand attacks and a –8
penalty on her off-hand attacks (assuming she wields a light
weapon in her off hand).
If Ember has Two-Weapon Fighting, she has to accept only
a –2 penalty on all attacks to make an extra attack with her off
hand. Thus, when wielding a light weapon in her off hand
during a flurry of blows, she can make a total of three attacks,
each at a total bonus of +1. At least one of these attacks has to
be with her off-hand weapon.
A 20th-level monk with Greater Two-Weapon Fighting can
make eight attacks per round during a flurry of blows.
Assuming she wields a light weapon in her off hand, her three
off-hand weapon attacks are at +13/+8/+3, and she has five
attacks (at +13/+13/+13/+8/+3) with unarmed strikes or any
weapons she carries in her primary hand. If the same monk also
has Rapid Shot and throws at least one shuriken as part of her
flurry of blows (since Rapid Shot can be used only with ranged
attacks), she can throw one additional shuriken with her
primary hand, but all of her attacks (even melee attacks) suffer
a –2 penalty. Thus, her full attack array looks like this:
+11/+11/+11/+11/+6/+1 primary hand (two must be with
shuriken) and +11/+6/+1 off hand.
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我知道faq上说了些什么...但是我记得faq上另一篇又说过不可以?
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另一篇FAQ吗？
论坛上到是有一个贴子，这上也说FOB和双武不可共存，但这贴子和AD大人应该是引用了同样一篇关于徒手攻击的文章。
http://www.www.goddessfantasy.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=14033 (http://www.www.goddessfantasy.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=14033)
If a monk is not using her flurry of blows ability, she can claim an extra attack from a second weapon.
这句话也没说用FOB就不能同时双武呀？虽然好像也可以这么理解似的。
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哦哦哦， 最新faq上那些矛盾的描述好像被删了。。。
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我自己查了一下，似乎是这样，疾风连击没有副手攻击的概念，所以开了疾风，多的2次攻击就是主手的，用正常力量加值。而副手拿武器攻击的话，攻击次数可以再多，但是其力量加值按副手攻击的规则来....所以如果以20武僧级为例，开疾风就是15/15/15/10/5,同时开疾风又用副手攻击（没有学任何相关专长）就是11/11/11/6/1/7。因为概念很明确了，所以其伤害的力量加值也是分别计算的，即前5次攻击都为疾风下的主手攻击，用正常加值（相信木棍也不例外了...555555）。而副手的最后一次攻击伤害就按副手的规则来（这里有歧义）......
唯一的歧义只有一点。正常情况下，因为木棍是双头武器，伤害的力量加值应是1.5倍，但是把它当作双武器来用的时候，其伤害的力量加值怎么算呢？是全都算双手武器？还是按照副手武器的规则来？因为如果是双头武器的话，即时算副手攻击，其攻击检定按副手规则来，但是双头武器在副手使出的时候也是用双手拿的，其伤害检定不应该算副手规则吧？（我想得头都大了...）
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双头武器可以使用双手来挥舞，此时力量加值才使用1.5，此时它视为双手武器。拿木棍来说吧，就是双手拿着木棍砸人，此时就是用木棍的一头打人，伤害应该是1d8+1.5×力量加值。
如果将木棍视为双头武器，则使用双武器战斗规则，主手伤害1d8+力量加值，副手1d8+0.5×力量加值。