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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 桑特 于 2011-11-01, 周二 12:37:24
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When making a full attack action, a hasted creature may make one extra attack with any weapon he is holding. The attack is made using the creature's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. (This effect is not cumulative with similar effects, such as that provided by a speed weapon, nor does it actually grant an extra action, so you can't use it to cast a second spell or otherwise take an extra action in the round.)
3R时期我一直认为加速是不能给天武额外攻击的
但是PF那边有人问起叠不叠时, Pathfinder 的Creative Director突然冒出来说"Haste grants you one bonus attack, including natural attacks."
因为PF的Haste描述和3R一样,所以问下3R有不有关于这个问题的官方说法
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咦我一直以为天武也有，3R说了不能么
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咦我一直以为天武也有，3R说了不能么
没说不能,看3R的天武算不算weapon he is holding
PF那边因为参与写书的人说可以给天武所以律师们也不好再说什么,3R就不清楚了...
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那我且问你3R的和尚徒手能不能加速
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那我且问你3R的和尚徒手能不能加速
按律师说法的话还真不能 :em006
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你不觉得和尚们都哭了么
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你不觉得和尚们都哭了么
就是考虑到和尚们才来问的 :em006
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那样就拿个棍子，加速的一下用棍子打
不过我一直以为天武不能的...
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@aland
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原来零级命中其实是base attack bonus么！
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居然还有这回事……受教了！
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零级命中不是To Hit AC 0么。。。
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我觉得，如果和尚的徒手攻击会因为BAB的提升而增加攻击次数的话，那么加速也该有效。毕竟加速并不会给使用天武的怪物增加攻击次数
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其实谁能提供一下haste下的官方印的猛客或着怪物数据就行了
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一般不都是写个法术列表让你自己加么...
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所以很难找啊，天武怪爱用加速的典型就是夜影君们，当然人家数据上没算加速。。。
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3R天武可以加速，证据在《Draconomicon》66页：
Dragons love haste, and not just for the extra (often sixth!) attack it gives them when making a full attack. A +1 bonus on attack rolls is often just that much more cushion for using Power Attack, since dragons rarely have much difficulty hitting their foes. A +1 bonus to Armor Class is always welcome, and increasing a dragon’s speed by 30 feet makes it outpace every opponent that much more.
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很好,这样Summoner的Eidolons拿Haste的额外攻击就没争议了
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当初制造这个傻逼争议的傻逼律师在哪，我要去喷他……
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当初制造这个傻逼争议的傻逼律师在哪，我要去喷他……
Mogart wrote:
Haste - Not usable for natural attacks, so unless you want the Eidolon to use manufactured weapons, then you are looking at a spell...
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/general/summonerOverpowered&page=1&source=search#32
当然这个不是源头...
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不过那个描述写得确实坑爹，母语使用者也中招无数