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主题: 类法术能力在哪些情况下能够被视同法术?
作者: Julien2021-10-03, 周日 01:19:41
sp是否与法术等同?(Yes,在此种情况下sp可以视为spell;No,正相反)

【CRB】专注,Yes。借机,Yes。防御式施法,Yes。
【CRB】对抗SR,Yes。
【CRB】被解除魔法解除,Yes。被反魔场之类的效果压制,Yes。法术反制or被法术反制,No。
【CRB】超魔专长,No。【CRB FAQ】超魔权杖,No。
【CRB FAQ】作为造物时的前置条件,Yes。作为造物专长的前置条件,No。
【CRB FAQ】作为法表以启动魔杖、卷轴,No。
【CRB FAQ】作为前置条件(可以施放某法术),仅当说明具体的法术名时,Yes。拥有sp任意门不能被视为“可施放奥术”或“可施放2环奥术“
【CRB FAQ】法术辨识-正在施放的法术,看情况。【Julien】usually Yes。
【B4 180页例子-Leanan Sidhe】法术专攻(某学派)对该学派sp,Yes。(Julien怀疑应该也有反面的例子)



        btw,该问题其实有个上级规则(general rule),CRB三次提到,sp就如同同名的法术一般运作
引述: CRB 221, charpter 9 - Magic, speical abilities之下
Spell-Like Abilities: Usually, a spell-like ability works just like the spell of that name. A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus. The user activates it mentally. Armor never affects a spell-like ability’s use, even if the ability resembles an arcane spell with a somatic component.
引述: CRB 13,chapter 1 - Getting Started,common terms之下
Spell-Like Abilities (Sp): Spell-like abilities function just like spells, but are granted through a special racial ability or by a specific class ability (as opposed to spells, which are gained by spellcasting classes as a character gains levels).
引述: CRB 554,附录 1: SPECIAL ABILITIES之下
Spell-Like Abilities (Sp): Spell-like abilities, as the name implies, are magical abilities that are very much like spells. Spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance and dispel magic. They do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). Spell-like abilities can be dispelled, but they cannot be counterspelled or used to counterspell.
        不过对于是否将这样的话认定为规则语言,我们尚存在争议。诸所周知,function as,expect..表示除此之外皆与某某相同。此处的works just like 和 function(work) just like是否能等同于function as ?我个人倾向于是,不过尚未有定论。
主题: Re: 类法术能力在哪些情况下能够被视同法术?
作者: Julien2021-10-03, 周日 08:41:35
我们真正遇到的问题其实是,影响法术的专长或职业能力能否作用于sp。
比如,高等召唤(Superior Summoning)、多功能召唤生物(Versatile Summon Monster)能否作用于召唤师、法师变体秘学士的sp召唤?目前好像通常是判可以。
主题: Re: 类法术能力在哪些情况下能够被视同法术?
作者: kataaaka2021-10-03, 周日 09:15:59
引用
Augment Summoning: Does this feat apply to monsters summoned with summon monster or summon nature's ally spell-like abilities?
Yes.

posted November 2013
主题: Re: 类法术能力在哪些情况下能够被视同法术?
作者: 希尔2021-10-03, 周日 13:38:15
不能。除了增强召唤一直被点名,其他专长除非自己说明(比如多功能召唤特地说了其他模拟法术的能力