純美蘋果園
TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 无名亡者 于 2007-05-02, 周三 00:01:25
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从上个月起，连续出了3期关于徒手攻击的文章，里面有些地方和以前的解释似乎有出入。
Monks and Manufactured Weapons
The most painless way for a monk to combine attacks with manufactured weapons and unarmed attacks is to use special monk weapons (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, or siangham). You can use any of these interchangeably with the monk's unarmed strikes -- even with a flurry of blows. You can even interchange ranged attacks with shuriken with melee attacks with unarmed attacks or special monk weapons as part of a flurry.
看来FOB时手里剑速射是可行的。
A monk using one or two special monk weapons simply substitutes one attack from each weapon (or from one or both ends of a quarterstaff) as part of a full attack (including a flurry of blows). The monk need not take any penalties for off-hand or two-weapon attacks. The monk, however, does not get an extra attack from a second weapon. If the monk is using a flurry of blows, she adds her full Strength bonus to damage from any successful attack, even if she uses what normally would be her off hand, or uses one end of a quarterstaff as a two-handed weapon.
这段没什么好说的。
If a monk is not using her flurry of blows ability, she can claim an extra attack from a second weapon. If she does, she takes all the penalties for attacking with two weapons and for attacking with off-hand weapons. A monk using an unarmed strike as an off-hand attack does not suffer any off-hand penalties; however, under the regular rules for two-weapon fighting you get only one extra attack for an off-hand weapon.
红：FOB和双武不能同时用，1轮10连螳螂男便没有了。
蓝：武僧拿徒手攻击当副手居然无任何惩罚。SRD里关于武僧徒手无副手的描述是这么理解的么 :em005
For example a 7th-level monk with a Strength score of 15 that uses a longspear as a primary weapon and makes an off-hand unarmed attack has attack bonuses that are +3 longspear, +7 unarmed. This breaks down as follows: The longspear is +5 base, +2 Strength, -4 two-weapon (off-hand weapon is light). The unarmed strike is +5 base, +2 Strength -- off-hand penalties don't apply to a monk's unarmed strike. Because a longspear is a two-handed weapon, damage from the weapon is 1d8+3. Damage for the unarmed strike is 1d8+2 -- a monk gets her full Strength bonus for unarmed strikes, even when used as off-hand attacks.
从这个例子看，副手用徒手攻击不但没AB惩罚，伤害还能附加全部力量加值，比我一直以为的强好多。
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那麼正手用武器、副手不用的話，用two weapon fighting，副手的攻擊又怎麼計算呢？(右手雙截棍、左手拳頭？)不需要-2，還可以用盡str bonus？
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看他给的例子，就是这样。主手武器－2，副手拳头不减。不过整体强度没有超过FoB，因为多花一个专长。
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这faq和rotg之间矛盾的地方不是一般多,简直是漏洞百出.
我已经写信去问sage了,就是不知道会不会有回复,xd
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看意思是，孟克有没有双武专长都一样，因为副手无论如何只能在不用FoB的情况下无惩罚地打一拳。也就是说给低级孟克或否种原因FoB不班的孟克用用
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The rules don’t come right out and say that a monk can’t
use an unarmed strike for an off-hand strike (although the exact
wording of the unarmed strike ability suggests otherwise), and
no compelling reason why a monk could not do so exists.
When using an unarmed strike as an off-hand attack, the monk
suffers all the usual attack penalties from two-weapon fighting
(see Table 8–10 in the Player’s Handbook) and the monk adds
only half her Strength bonus (if any) to damage if the off-hand
unarmed strike hits.
那這一段又如何理解？
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嗯，真扯...
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wotc的专栏只是大致上看看，里面提到的一些东西只能算是一些思路和建议，不能当正式的规则解释。如果遇到正儿八经的东西还是看3宝书和FAQ。
我同意胖胖的观点，真喵的扯……
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这个文章对于徒手攻击加天武就有两种解法，一点唯一性都没有。
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那三期徒手攻击解释么。第一期说了等于没说。后两期越说越扯。要我说还不如不要信这破解释 :em005
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貌似这文章已经改过了？
我是找不到任何和monk有关的东西了。