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懒得翻也翻不好 看原文吧：
Asmodai in Judaism
In Judaism Asmodai appears in the Book of Tobit and the Talmud.
In the Book of Tobit Asmodai falls in love with Sarah, daughter of Rachel, and kills her husband each time she gets married; in this way, he killed seven men on their wedding night, impeding the consummation of the sexual act. After this, Sarah becomes engaged to Tobias, a young man, who, menaced by the demon, receives the aid of the angel Raphael. Raphael teaches Tobias how to deal with the demon, making him catch a fish and put its heart and liver on lit coals, which produces a vapour that makes Asmodai flee to Egypt, where Raphael binds him. More about the demon's fate in this history is unknown, but here he is presented as feeling carnal desire as well as having evil behaviour.
In the Talmud Asmodai seems not to be the evil creature he is in other books. There are, besides, some legends concerning Asmodai and King Solomon. One of them tells that King Solomon tricked the demon and obliged him to collaborate in building the temple of Jerusalem, and in another legend Asmodai changed place for some years with King Solomon. There is, however, another legend, saying that Asmodai is the king of all demons, comparable to Satan, and married Lilith after she left Adam.
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老大的老婆叫Lilith是亚当的前妻（原名eve，这个和eva有什么关系？）
被亚当抛弃后受到老大的无比关爱 嗯 :lol:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/thumb/6/62/250px-Colliersnake.jpg)
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eve就是夏娃，eva也是夏娃……嗯，日本人笨，拼错了……
不过Lilith果真原名eve么？
另，DND的PS是另外的一个世界，本质来说跟圣经里的故事是没有任何关系的……
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呃 是阿 不过这个人物原形取自于圣经嘛
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Lilith as Adam's first wife
The first clear reference to Lilith as the first wife of Adam is in an anonymous medieval work called The Alphabet of Ben-Sira. In it, Lilith is described as refusing to assume a subservient role to Adam during sexual intercourse and eventually deserted Adam. Lilith then went on to mate with Asmodai and various other demons she found beside the Red Sea, creating countless lilin. Adam urged God to bring Lilith back, so three angels were despatched after her. When the angels, Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, made threats to kill one hundred of Lilith's demonic children for each day she stayed away, she countered that she would prey eternally upon the descendants of Adam and Eve, who could be saved only by invoking the names of the three angels, and did not return to Adam.
This story has similarities with the original Mesopotamian myth, where Lilith killed children, and so the practice of protecting children by placing Lilith amulets around their necks with the names of the three angels became a custom of many Jewish communities in medieval times.
This legend was mistakenly included in an English language book of rabbinic works (the author seemingly assumed that any ancient book read in the Jewish community must have been a rabbinic work). However, contrary to popular belief, the The Alphabet of Ben-Sira is not a Jewish religious text; rather, it is a collection of perverse stories about heroes of the Bible and Talmud. Modern historians are unsure of its original purpose, although it may have been a collection of risqué folk-tales, a refutation of Christians, Karaites or other separatist movement, or simply an anti-Jewish satire
希腊神话里也有类似版本：
Lilith in World myths
Various versions of the Lilith myth exist; Hieronymus associated Lilith with the mythical Greek Lamia, a Libyan queen who mated with Zeus. After Zeus abandoned Lamia, Hera stole Lamia's children, and Lamia took revenge by stealing other women's children.
The original name in Sumerian was "Lilitu", and the transliteration from the Hebrew "לילית" may be as "Lilith," "Lillith," or "Lilit".
圣经记载：
However, some interpret the passage in Genesis 1:27 — "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" — before describing a mate being made of Adam's rib and being called Eve in Genesis 2:22, to mean that Adam had a wife before Eve, and that this could have been Lilith. However, this divergence is often explained as a careless weaving together of two discrete biblical creation myths, as the Bible describes man being created in both Genesis 1:26 and 2:27.
Adam had a wife before Eve 嗯
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老外的书乱的可以，每个教派有每个教派对于各个宗教人物的解释，还有一大堆小教派以及支派什么的。基本上阿斯莫蒂这种人物就跟中国的太上老君玉皇大帝差不多，正经的宗教用书可能用到，诗歌散文可能用到，YY小说可能用到，什么“三天速成魔法”之类的杂书也可能用到……同理还有拜尔泽布，墨菲斯托之类的……
至于Lilith……感觉比较pagan一点的书就会用到，当然最近这个家伙的流行还是因为在日漫里的大量使用……
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呃如此看了和eve是2个人 eve似乎是Lilith的替代品......
并且Lilith和adam的女儿Lilin
据说就是Succubus一族的原形
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中文似乎翻成女怪吧
感觉就是被主流社会抛弃的可怜人......
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据EVA说…………
Lilin才是正常的人类……
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呃 所以才要补完么？
我eva果然没看懂阿........
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Lilith可是历史上第一个女权主义者啊，虽然有点１８Ｘ．．．
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呃 所以才要补完么？
我eva果然没看懂阿........
是这样的，Adam是第一使徒（至少目前公认是这样），EVA机体打的那些是3－17号使徒，人类自己就是第18使徒（至少目前大多数人认为是这样解释）。3－17是亚当的正常后代（或者说，是亚当和eve的后代），18使徒的人类是亚当和Lilith的后代，也就是说是罪恶的那一支。EVA机体是人类在南极发现亚当和夏娃之后（当时亚当和夏娃相互接触，爆发第二次冲击），按照夏娃仿制的。亚当是个很有趣的东西，任何之后的使徒跟它接触就会爆炸，然后让该使徒代表的那部分生命补完。那些奇形怪状的使徒之所以入侵地球就是要和亚当融为一体（当然亚当中间被元度偷偷以Lilith掉包了，所以好多使徒找的地方不对），达成心灵与肉体完美融合的补完状态（有兴趣可以详细再看看25－26话，还有剧场版）。
EVA里的理论认为，AT－Field是人与人之间无所不在的障蔽，人可以借着这层隔膜引发最深层的力量，这也是为什么里面的人物越自闭就越厉害。Asuka就是一开始不如Shinji自闭，同步率才一直没法上去的。补完的状态就是大家把AT－Field融合在一起，消除彼此的隔阂，达到更高的生存形态。但是消除隔阂的同时也意味着消除了个人的意志，这也是为什么很多人不支持补完的原因。
总之，整个故事要告诉你的是，同根相生的使徒和人类之间为了争夺生存空间互相残杀的故事，表现了生存的残酷性和人类在自由意志和解除隔阂之间摇摆不定的矛盾心理。简而言之的话，你可以认为是庵野大神自我厌恶症大爆发的直接后果。
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原来是这样阿 佩服 佩服
圣经上也有写Lilith毒害 亚当和夏娃的后代阿
原来人类才是Lilith后代阿
我想Shinji那个小废人 为何那么厉害呢 哎........
现在怀疑元度故意培养他小废人的性格 来加强eva机体的能力了 ......
不过亚当和夏娃的后代为何那么少 Lilith的后代为何那么多.........
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那个……EVA是在扯淡…………不要信啊…………
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呃 小日本的动画 没有一个不是扯淡的阿
不过剧本确实构思的不错耶 值得学习
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也就是说RUKAWA就是使徒中代表人类的那个吧
那么其他的使徒分别代表什么生物呢？
怎么都这么想补完啊/。/
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动漫时代上有一期提过原型的．．．．
什么＂鸟＂啊；＂鱼＂啊；＂子宫＂啊；＂力＂啊；＂胎儿＂啊．．．．．．
我没恶搞．是真的．．．
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那么那些子宫这些跟代表人有什么不同。。。不是一样么。。。