純美蘋果園
TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 桑特 于 2011-09-25, 周日 23:52:29
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混源学者变体的能力
Fused Eidolon: A synthesist summons the essence of a
powerful outsider to meld with his own being. Instead of
appearing as a separate creature next to the summoner,
the eidolon appears around the synthesist, so that the
synthesist seems to be inside a translucent image of his
eidolon. The synthesist directs all of the eidolon’s actions
while fused, perceives through its senses, and speaks
through its voice, as the two are now one creature.
While fused with his eidolon, the synthesist uses the
eidolon’s physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and
Constitution), but retains his own mental ability scores
(Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma). The synthesist gains
the eidolon’s hit points as temporary hit points. When these
hit points reach 0, the eidolon is sent back to its home plane.
The synthesist uses the eidolon’s base attack bonus, and
gains the eidolon’s armor and natural armor bonuses and
modifiers to ability scores. The synthesist also gains access to
the eidolon’s special abilities and the eidolon’s evolutions. The
synthesist is still limited to the eidolon’s maximum number
of natural attacks. The eidolon has no skills or feats of its own.
The eidolon must be at least the same size as the synthesist.
那么在拿了这两个进化后
Pounce (Ex): An eidolon gains quick reflexes, allowing it to make a full attack after a charge. This evolution is only available to eidolons of the quadruped base form.
Large (Ex): An eidolon grows in size, becoming Large. The eidolon gains a +8 bonus to Strength, a +4 bonus to Constitution, and a +2 bonus to its natural armor. It takes a –2 penalty to its Dexterity. This size change also gives the creature a –1 size penalty to its AC and on attack rolls, a +1 bonus to its CMB and CMD, a –2 penalty on Fly skill checks, and a –4 penalty on Stealth skill checks. If the eidolon has the biped base form, it also gains 10-foot reach. Any reach evolutions the eidolon possesses are added to this total. The eidolon must be Medium to take this evolution. The summoner must be at least 8th level before selecting this evolution.
是否意味着他本人可以学擅长巨剑后玩合体以大体型拿着巨剑猛扑？
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我也做过这种BUILD，看起来是没有问题的。是很强，但其实蛮子也能做到这个程度
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恩,PF的这个魔武我很满意,比较有个性而且强力
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这不就是传说中的神打么！
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目前看来这build爆发输出和帕帕丁和审判比有一点差距，优势是皮可以鼓得非常厚。。。
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你難道在想盔甲加天防……我想說雖然沒說明，但從規則精神來說，已經用了精神嚮導的形體，本身穿的盔甲應該不計算了
如果是說血多的話，這倒是沒錯，血非常多
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合体的时候只说了会得到向导的天防和护甲加值，一票特性及进化而以，这个本身又不是变形，而且就算不算本人穿的甲，合体后再放法师护甲又怎么算呢？
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合體後算作一個法術目標了，所以法甲沒問題的
本人盔甲這個，因為規則裡沒有說明，我只好按自己的理解
我理解的雖然不是變形，但從特效（……）上來看，是自己的形體被嚮導的形體整個包裹起來了吧，盔甲自然也被包在裡面了
當然，因為鏈接的關係，盔甲的附魔能力仍然可以生效
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试作了一张8级，谨慎处理只算法甲的情况下AC上30还是很轻松的，再加上约等于双倍的血
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另外问下最新prd上面似乎把旧版法术表的一些nerf取消了(比如2环表上加速还在)，是他们忘记改了还是正式版确实取消了？
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不清楚，我反正以官網PRD為準了
另外這種BUILD其實改進一下，輸出是可以達到PAL水平的
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那个。。。关于特效(汗。。。)，因为从规则处理上小体型召唤用中体型向导时仍然算作小体型，并且速度不会因为向导是四足还是水生而改变，所以这东西是不是可以穿过去的虚像很难说。。。比较不美型的说法是召唤师因为得到那些进化本人会长出三头六臂来。。。
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另外關於這個變體能力我覺得應該這麼理解：混源學者的嚮導和分離形態（16級能力）完全就是原版召喚師的嚮導和融合形態的倒置
既然召喚的融合形態提到說是一個transformation includes all of the summoner's gear，那麼混源學者的也應該同樣理解？
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考虑到和一般召唤的融合型态在文字描述上有巨大差别，设计师如果想纯套用的话可以把那段话抄下来改个级别，融合动作和持续时间扔给混源，目前也没有不准取用原型体装备的描述(老召唤的写了不准取用)，所以还很难说