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主题: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-06, 周二 20:40:47
Hypnotism
Your piercing gaze and whispered word let you seize momentary control of your enemy’s mind.

At-Will        Arcane, Charm, Enchantment, Implement
Standard Action      Ranged 10

Target: One enemy

Attack: Intelligence vs. Will

Hit: Choose one of the following effects:
* The target uses a free action to make a melee basic attack against a creature of your choice, with a +4 power bonus to the attack roll.
* You slide the target up to 3 squares.

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Charm of Misplaced Wrath
You bend your foe’s mind, filling it with wrath even as you twist its senses.

Encounter        Arcane, Charm, Enchantment, Implement
Standard Action      Ranged 10

Target: One enemy

Attack: Intelligence vs. Will

Hit: You slide the target up to 3 squares. The target is then dazed until the end of your next turn.

Effect: The target makes a basic attack against a creature of your choice as a free action. The basic attack gains a +2 power bonus to the damage roll.

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Puckish Sprite
You call forth a mischievous fey creature, aglow with fairy light and as meddlesome as a satyr.

Encounter        Arcane, Conjuration, Implement, Radiant
Standard Action      Ranged 10

Target: One creature

Attack: Intelligence vs. Will

Hit: 1d10 + Intelligence modifier radiant damage. You slide the target up to 2 squares, and it makes a basic attack as a free action against a creature of your choice.

Effect: You conjure a puckish sprite in an unoccupied square adjacent to the target. The sprite lasts until the end of your next turn. Any enemy of yours adjacent to the sprite takes a -4 penalty to attack rolls.

红字标出的这一类效果能否将该free attack的目标选择为进行free attack的生物自己?

另外补个问题,如果一个虚体有全抗10,它受到伤害时是先扣抗力再减半还是反之?
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: AlbertNi2011-12-07, 周三 05:27:39
RAW可
抗力那个,我不知道有没有官方的判罚顺序。
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: askzy2011-12-07, 周三 14:05:38
伤害那个,我觉得按照官方小白化的思路一定直接搞成先加减后乘除⋯⋯

我自己用的顺序如下(这事儿还是DM定下来好?),虚体受到的所有伤害减半,这一条放在最后

初始伤害x
伤害发出者:
if weaken: y = x/2 else y = x
if miss half: z = y/2 else z = y

伤害接受者:
resistance and vulnerable: w = z - r + v
if insubstantial: f = w / 2 else f = w
最终伤害f
主题: Re:<4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 他化自在天2011-12-07, 周三 16:42:31
为啥我觉得减半才是最先算的?
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: Sheepy2011-12-07, 周三 17:46:16
我自己也是衰弱最先,虛體最後,抗力易傷放中間這樣算的...
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-08, 周四 09:05:26
Thank you for contacting us. Hypnotism says "The target uses a free action to make a melee basic attack against a creature of your choice, with a +4 power bonus to the attack roll." The only specification on targeting is that the target must be a creature of your choice. This does make the creature effected by Hypnotism a legal target.

看起来能和战士mark搞Combo...
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: askzy2011-12-09, 周五 21:52:03
Thank you for contacting us. Hypnotism says "The target uses a free action to make a melee basic attack against a creature of your choice, with a +4 power bonus to the attack roll." The only specification on targeting is that the target must be a creature of your choice. This does make the creature effected by Hypnotism a legal target.

看起来能和战士mark搞Combo...

我们面团里的猛客已经这么干很久了

warden上去标记一个,然后猛客上去打醉猴,命中效果是目标mba一个指定目标,然后就让目标mba自己,然后触发标记warden先补一刀

这就是一次性三刀下去了
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-09, 周五 21:59:40
Thank you for contacting us. Hypnotism says "The target uses a free action to make a melee basic attack against a creature of your choice, with a +4 power bonus to the attack roll." The only specification on targeting is that the target must be a creature of your choice. This does make the creature effected by Hypnotism a legal target.

看起来能和战士mark搞Combo...

我们面团里的猛客已经这么干很久了

warden上去标记一个,然后猛客上去打醉猴,命中效果是目标mba一个指定目标,然后就让目标mba自己,然后触发标记warden先补一刀

这就是一次性三刀下去了

monk的不是at-will而且不能双投
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: askzy2011-12-09, 周五 22:08:29
monk的不是at-will而且不能双投
monk不是法师,over。
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-09, 周五 22:12:28
monk的不是at-will而且不能双投
monk不是法师,over。
monk这职业还是删了好,over。
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 2011-12-10, 周六 08:33:11
這個遊戲只給你們留下法師一個職業就好(也許還有早晨老大其他幾個,但加起來似乎也不超過5個),其他職業放出來有什麼意義啊
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-10, 周六 09:46:29
有意义啊,比如某些他们自己用起来不怎么样但是放到棍身上就有奇效的资源。其他职业难道不就是给各种棍们榨取完剩余价值后扔掉的么(雾
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-10, 周六 10:05:06
wotc的确有一个游戏玩家只能扮演法师,而且它还卖得比dnd好,这货叫万智牌233
主题: Re:<4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: Leaf2011-12-10, 周六 10:17:26
位面行者法你妹
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-10, 周六 10:42:52
位面行者法你妹
In Magic: The Gathering, a Planeswalker is a powerful mage  who is able to travel across the planes of existence
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: OckhamTheRazor2011-12-10, 周六 11:02:32
你看它都叫wizards of the coast了,还有啥说的...
主题: Re:<4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: Leaf2011-12-10, 周六 11:24:31
Wiz和Mage不是一种东西

如果那是官方描述的话自约X莫夫以来就没哪个跟Mage扯上关系,甚至是Mage这个词。。。
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-10, 周六 11:59:33
只扯Mage这个词的话DND有明确定义
A mage is a specialized wizard, a spellcaster who focuses on the tenets of a particular school of magic.

然后何谓Planeswalker
官方描述是In Magic: The Gathering, a Planeswalker is a powerful mage who is able to travel across the planes of existence

拿相同的词借题开个玩笑都能引来叶哥扯内涵
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: Leaf2011-12-10, 周六 12:13:05
You are a planeswalker. In the vast Multiverse, only you and your kind know of the countless worlds beyond your own. You have seen realities that would make a mundane wizard cower in awe. You have laid eyes upon the Blind Eternities. You are an iconoclast with an arsenal of sorcery at your command. Your gift drives you to seek out Magical knowledge, to test your limits, to forge your destiny.

You are a planeswalker. Almost every Magic player has heard this phrase. Maybe it was the first thing they heard when being taught how to play by a friend. Maybe they didn't hear it until later, when they had already decided that Magic was their kind of game and they wanted to know more about its backstory. Or maybe they heard it as Richard Garfield did in 1993: in a dream.



In Magic: The Gathering, a Planeswalker is a powerful mage who is able to travel across the planes of existence
求连接啊
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: 桑特2011-12-10, 周六 12:15:41
http://www.wizards.com/magic/multiverse/planeswalkers.aspx
主题: Re: <4E>这类效果能否让怪自残
作者: Leaf2011-12-10, 周六 12:29:55
竟然改成这样了

/me 在克撒和约格莫夫基情结束后就没关心了