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[3R/PF] 角色能使用多大号的远程武器
« 于: 2011-11-12, 周六 17:29:28 »
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Light, One-Handed, and Two-Handed Melee Weapons:

This designation is a measure of how much effort it takes to wield a weapon in combat. It indicates whether a melee weapon, when wielded by a character of the weapon's size category, is considered a light weapon, a one-handed weapon, or a two-handed weapon.

Light: A light weapon is used in one hand. It is easier to use in one's off hand than a one-handed weapon is, and can be used while grappling (see Combat). Add the wielder's Strength modifier to damage rolls for melee attacks with a light weapon if it's used in the primary hand, or half the wielder's Strength bonus if it's used in the off hand. Using two hands to wield a light weapon gives no advantage on damage; the Strength bonus applies as though the weapon were held in the wielder's primary hand only.

An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon.

One-Handed: A one-handed weapon can be used in either the primary hand or the off hand. Add the wielder's Strength bonus to damage rolls for melee attacks with a one-handed weapon if it's used in the primary hand, or 1/2 his Strength bonus if it's used in the off hand. If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls.

Two-Handed: Two hands are required to use a two-handed melee weapon effectively. Apply 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls for melee attacks with such a weapon.
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Weapon Size:

Every weapon has a size category. This designation indicates the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed.

A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object. Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.

Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.

The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.
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Inappropriately Sized Firearms: You cannot make optimum use of a firearm that is not properly sized for you. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between your size and the size of the firearm. If you are not proficient with the firearm, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies. The size of a firearm never affects how many hands you need to use to shoot it, the exception being siege firearms and Large or larger creatures. In most cases, a Large or larger creature can use a siege firearm as a two-handed firearm, but the creature takes a –4 penalty for using it this way because of its awkwardness.
以上是原文。

对近战武器而言,规则写得比较明白,中型人类可以用大型长剑(须双手持用),攻击-2;不能用大型巨剑。
3R里CArd好歹有个猴爪专长,PF里就没见到了。

远程武器如何处理呢?
虽然大多数远程武器需要双手才能使用,但我认为它们的作用机理和双手近战武器是不同的。
譬如PF枪械说明(http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/combat/firearms.html)里,
还专门这样描述:“The size of a firearm never affects how many hands you need to use to shoot it.
如果一定要抠字眼的话,还可以对弩、火枪这种“可以单手使用但须承受攻击-4罚值”的武器进行单独讨论。

所以我想问问,以中型人类为例,可以使用多大的远程武器?可以承受-2持大型弩?-4持超大型弓?-6持巨型火枪?

Tiro Finale魂燃了,特来求问~

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Re: [3R/PF] 角色能使用多大号的远程武器
« 回帖 #1 于: 2011-11-12, 周六 17:46:31 »
按照规则,远程武器的处理方法同近战武器。

至于某些武器的作用机理,据我所知至少3R没有专门考虑过这个问题,属于房规范畴。
Aa' i'sul nora lanne'lle
Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quenle
Aa' menealle nauva calen ar' malta
Aa' lasser en lle coia orn n' omenta gurtha

Amin harmuva onalle e' cormamin
Amin khiluva lle a' gurtha ar' thar
Amin naa lle nai, a'maelamin
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Re: [3R/PF] 角色能使用多大号的远程武器
« 回帖 #2 于: 2011-11-12, 周六 22:00:40 »
一般来说没人愿意承受那减值去用...
不过如果你想看个大的,CW有个投石巨人,不过那个形象和你脑补的相差太远...

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Re: [3R/PF] 角色能使用多大号的远程武器
« 回帖 #3 于: 2011-11-12, 周六 22:29:34 »
我说老实话吧……  :em003

(Early) Two-Handed Firearms    Cost    Dmg (S)    Dmg (M)    Critical    Range    Misfire    Capacity    Weight1    Type2    Special    Source
Double hackbut    4,000 gp    2d10    2d12    ×4    50 ft.    1–2 (5 ft.)    2    18 lbs.    B and P    —    UC

Vital Strike (Combat)
You make a single attack that deals significantly more damage than normal.
Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +6.
Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack twice and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. These extra weapon damage dice are not multiplied on a critical hit, but are added to the total.

Improved Vital Strike (Combat)
You can make a single attack that deals a large amount of damage.
Prerequisites: Vital Strike, base attack bonus +11.
Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack three times and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. These extra weapon damage dice are not multiplied on a critical hit, but are added to the total.

Greater Vital Strike (Combat)
You can make a single attack that deals incredible damage.
Prerequisites: Improved Vital Strike, Vital Strike, base attack bonus +16.
Benefit: When you use the attack action, you can make one attack at your highest base attack bonus that deals additional damage. Roll the weapon's damage dice for the attack four times and add the results together before adding bonuses from Strength, weapon abilities (such as flaming), precision based damage, and other damage bonuses. These extra weapon damage dice are not multiplied on a critical hit, but are added to the total.

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Re: [3R/PF] 角色能使用多大号的远程武器
« 回帖 #4 于: 2011-11-12, 周六 22:40:41 »
穿+8负载背心,持超巨型秘银枪身,Standard Action,如若CH
bang = 112D6 = 392