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[4e]法术范围与效果线
« 于: 2011-04-25, 周一 04:32:48 »
没有效果线的地方算是法术范围内么？

具体问题如下：
一个咒造物，造物主主动或被动的移到了效果线以外，那东西还存在么？
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M: I don't know how to put this to you, but trainspotters do have a certain reputation.
T: Which reputation are you thinking of?
M: Well... maybe for being a little bit dull?
T: I think you become involved to an extent that you ignore the real world outside. You come into your own little world and you have many people who join you in that, whether they're interested in mechanics, interested in the actual observations, interested in the operations. They all have their own little interest. But it means that we're committed to what we enjoy.
M: A little obsessive, then? You will admit to a little obsessive, would you?
T: I think obsessive, possibly, yes. Certainly not dull.

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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #1 于: 2011-04-25, 周一 16:26:48 »
1.如果需要維持的話, 我的理解是沒了.
2.所以大多數需要維持的conjuration是to your next turn end; 到下一輪還沒有跑回來的話, 東東就掉了.
  但是如果本身是不需要維持的東西, 我覺得就無所謂.
3.所以我們最近經常用吉斯銀劍來banish sb.,以清掉他的zone之類...
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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #2 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 02:02:05 »
规定超出威能范围会消失的是咒造物和领域，似乎维持倒并没有这种限制。
也就是说如果咒造物和领域挪动到效果线以外，仍可以存在的的话，你应该是可以维持它的？
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M: I don't know how to put this to you, but trainspotters do have a certain reputation.
T: Which reputation are you thinking of?
M: Well... maybe for being a little bit dull?
T: I think you become involved to an extent that you ignore the real world outside. You come into your own little world and you have many people who join you in that, whether they're interested in mechanics, interested in the actual observations, interested in the operations. They all have their own little interest. But it means that we're committed to what we enjoy.
M: A little obsessive, then? You will admit to a little obsessive, would you?
T: I think obsessive, possibly, yes. Certainly not dull.

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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #3 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 02:08:27 »
咒造物和领域挪动到效果线以外，仍可以存在是哪里的能力……
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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #4 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 03:18:30 »
引述: Snow Patrol 于 2011-04-26, 周二 02:02:05
也就是说如果咒造物和领域挪动到效果线以外，仍可以存在的的话，你应该是可以维持它的？
咒造物和领域在威能范围外会消失，相关规则里没有提到效果线。
而效果线的解释是在选定目标里的，并没提到威能效果的持续。
所以，最开始的问题是：效果线影响威能范围么？
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M: I don't know how to put this to you, but trainspotters do have a certain reputation.
T: Which reputation are you thinking of?
M: Well... maybe for being a little bit dull?
T: I think you become involved to an extent that you ignore the real world outside. You come into your own little world and you have many people who join you in that, whether they're interested in mechanics, interested in the actual observations, interested in the operations. They all have their own little interest. But it means that we're committed to what we enjoy.
M: A little obsessive, then? You will admit to a little obsessive, would you?
T: I think obsessive, possibly, yes. Certainly not dull.

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Re: [4e]法術範圍與效果線
« 回帖 #5 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 03:39:31 »
單論效果線的話不會消失. 雖然效果線會影響咒造物/領域的原點可以放在那兒, 但放了之後就不受跟你的效果線影響了.
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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #6 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 05:38:21 »
嗯，这个理解我跟羊姐姐一样。
召唤的时候需要效果线，且在range内，之后移动的话只要不超过range，就算没效果线也应该不消失……
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所谓便当，就是没有主角模板的围观群众们人手一份的洗具……
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16:48:30 <DnDBot> 史龙 投掷 神秘: 1d20+11=(2)+11=13
16:49:13 <史龙> （杯具了。。。
16:49:18 <朗读者> ： 你感到这里似乎有某种魔法，可是完全没法判断具体位置和种类。
16:49:38 <史龙> “小不点，你来试试，这个仓库有点古怪。”
16:49:54 * 史龙 戳了戳密云。
16:49:56 <DnDBot> 密云 投掷 神秘: 1d20+8=(4)+8=12
16:50:18 * 密云 也很无奈
16:50:32 * 史龙 又戳了戳本杰明。
16:50:41 <DnDBot> 本杰明 投掷 神秘: 1d20+13=(1)+13=14
16:50:49 <露丝特> （你们啊……
16:50:55 <露丝特> （我应该说啥……
16:51:06 <DnDBot> 拓瓦爾德 投掷 神秘: 1d20+3=(19)+3=22
16:51:24 * 拓瓦爾德 幸好自己也讀過幾本奧法書
16:52:38 * 本杰明 蹲在墙角画圈圈
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Re: [4e]法術範圍與效果線
« 回帖 #7 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 05:49:45 »
引述: Sheepy 于 2011-04-26, 周二 03:39:31
單論效果線的話不會消失. 雖然效果線會影響咒造物/領域的原點可以放在那兒, 但放了之後就不受跟你的效果線影響了.

引述: poorlunch 于 2011-04-26, 周二 05:38:21
嗯，这个理解我跟羊姐姐一样。
召唤的时候需要效果线，且在range内，之后移动的话只要不超过range，就算没效果线也应该不消失……

Conjuration的话需要效果线. 没效果线Conjuration消失.

Summon我等下去查.

At the end of your turn, the movable conjuration ends if you are not within
range of at least 1 square it’s in (using the power’s range) or if you don’t have line of effect [color] to at least 1 square it’s in.
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Re: [4e]法术范围与效果线
« 回帖 #8 于: 2011-04-26, 周二 08:22:59 »
* Snow Patrol 翻到了ad子给出的文字。
出自ph2...哦也，于是有答案了。
另外，提到的summon...规则里没有提到消失或结束，不过只在有loe的时候你才能指挥它。
以上。谢谢诸位。
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M: I don't know how to put this to you, but trainspotters do have a certain reputation.
T: Which reputation are you thinking of?
M: Well... maybe for being a little bit dull?
T: I think you become involved to an extent that you ignore the real world outside. You come into your own little world and you have many people who join you in that, whether they're interested in mechanics, interested in the actual observations, interested in the operations. They all have their own little interest. But it means that we're committed to what we enjoy.
M: A little obsessive, then? You will admit to a little obsessive, would you?
T: I think obsessive, possibly, yes. Certainly not dull.
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