算求考证，关于早年DND小德不能使用金属武器说法的来源

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看到5E小德贴的抱怨，翻翻老帖看到不能用金属武器说法
ADND是不说没有说不能用甚至要用金或银的镰刀采集榭寄生

3E倒是说避免携带人工金属制品，最好不用双手剑（第三波中文版，原文没有），当然范例图是弯刀……

所以这事当年是汉化私货引起的么……

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ADND是不说没有说不能用甚至要用金或银的镰刀采集榭寄生

说了。
2版和3版的表述是一致的，德鲁伊只许用列表里的武器，否则破誓，只是在3r抠掉了这个硬性限制。

劇透 -   :

2版是木棒、镰刀、飞镖、矛、匕首、弯刀、投石索和木棍。
3e是木棒、匕首、飞镖、半矛（halfspear）、长矛、木棍、弯刀、镰刀、短矛。
3r是木棒、匕首、木棍、弯刀、镰刀、短矛、投石索和矛。

3E倒是说避免携带人工金属制品，最好不用双手剑（第三波中文版，原文没有））

3E没说前半句，也没说后半句，原文有类似后半句但意思完全不同的表述。
是避免大量携带金属制品（解释），使用违规物品压制能力（规则）。3e举的例子是德鲁伊可以学会双手剑，但会因为破誓失去能力。3r把武器禁止抠了，把例子改成了全身甲。

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ADND是不说没有说不能用甚至要用金或银的镰刀采集榭寄生

说了。
2版和3版的表述是一致的，德鲁伊只许用列表里的武器，否则破誓，只是在3r抠掉了这个硬性限制。

劇透 -   :

2版是木棒、镰刀、飞镖、矛、匕首、弯刀、投石索和木棍。
3e是木棒、匕首、飞镖、半矛（halfspear）、长矛、木棍、弯刀、镰刀、短矛。
3r是木棒、匕首、木棍、弯刀、镰刀、短矛、投石索和矛。

3E倒是说避免携带人工金属制品，最好不用双手剑（第三波中文版，原文没有））

3E没说前半句，也没说后半句，原文有类似后半句但意思完全不同的表述。
是避免大量携带金属制品（解释），使用违规物品压制能力（规则）。3e举的例子是德鲁伊可以学会双手剑，但会因为破誓失去能力。3r把武器禁止抠了，把例子改成了全身甲。

ADND是类似牧师规则，部分KIT和神祇可改，但没说不能用金属制的比如弯刀匕首，我和子虚蓝冰确认过

3E是有点诡异，尤其是在范例图边上,但汉化版被魔改了（第三波汉化）使得表述变成接近于禁止所有的金属制品
Druids avoid carrying much worked metal with them because it
interferes with the pure and primal nature that they attempt to
embody.

[Mounrou]

ADnD Player's Handbook:

Unlike the cleric, the druid is allowed to use only "natural" armors -- padded, hide, or leather armor and wooden shields, including those with magical enhancements. All other armors are forbidden to him. His weapons are limited to club, sickle, dart, spear, dagger, scimitar, sling, and staff.

It's not metal weapons, but metal armors that're banned.

The thing about weapon is that Druids are pretty much limited to using things that resembles "farm tools" as weapons, even if those might have metal in them.
(It's also weird that they don't include scrythe, flail and nunchaku since those are farm tools as well... Okay so the main books don't have nunchaku and scrythe, and flail was kinda stretching it...)

Think of it as a (kinda dumb 80s) way of portraying the "Druid = Nature" theme.

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ADnD Player's Handbook:

Unlike the cleric, the druid is allowed to use only "natural" armors -- padded, hide, or leather armor and wooden shields, including those with magical enhancements. All other armors are forbidden to him. His weapons are limited to club, sickle, dart, spear, dagger, scimitar, sling, and staff.

It's not metal weapons, but metal armors that're banned.

The thing about weapon is that Druids are pretty much limited to using things that resembles "farm tools" as weapons, even if those might have metal in them.
(It's also weird that they don't include scrythe, flail and nunchuku since those are farm tools as well... Okay so the main books don't have nunchuku and scrythe, and flail was kinda stretching it...)

Think of it as a (kinda dumb 80s) way of portraying the "Druid = Nature" theme.

和ADND祭司一样限制了武器，当然不同神祇KIT可更改，吐槽下矛呢，如果说矛是狩猎武器，那弓呢（X

[Mounrou]

ADnD Player's Handbook:

Unlike the cleric, the druid is allowed to use only "natural" armors -- padded, hide, or leather armor and wooden shields, including those with magical enhancements. All other armors are forbidden to him. His weapons are limited to club, sickle, dart, spear, dagger, scimitar, sling, and staff.

It's not metal weapons, but metal armors that're banned.

The thing about weapon is that Druids are pretty much limited to using things that resembles "farm tools" as weapons, even if those might have metal in them.
(It's also weird that they don't include scrythe, flail and nunchuku since those are farm tools as well... Okay so the main books don't have nunchuku and scrythe, and flail was kinda stretching it...)

Think of it as a (kinda dumb 80s) way of portraying the "Druid = Nature" theme.

和ADND祭司一樣限制了武器，當然不同神祇KIT可更改，吐槽下矛呢，如果說矛是狩獵武器，那弓呢（X

Bows are hunting tools, and in terms of rural livelihoods it's a thing designed for the specific purpose to kill animals, of which is a huge no-no for Druids.
"Farming" in this case means "Working the land" and "Growing stuffs". (Well, in this case the dart/sling doesn't make sense either... They gotta fit a long-ranged weapon in somehow I guess. v=3=v)

...Again, its the 80s idea of Druids. It's actually surprising that WoTC didn't make them all vegan nowadays... They didn't, right? 0_=\

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ADnD Player's Handbook:

Unlike the cleric, the druid is allowed to use only "natural" armors -- padded, hide, or leather armor and wooden shields, including those with magical enhancements. All other armors are forbidden to him. His weapons are limited to club, sickle, dart, spear, dagger, scimitar, sling, and staff.

It's not metal weapons, but metal armors that're banned.

The thing about weapon is that Druids are pretty much limited to using things that resembles "farm tools" as weapons, even if those might have metal in them.
(It's also weird that they don't include scrythe, flail and nunchuku since those are farm tools as well... Okay so the main books don't have nunchuku and scrythe, and flail was kinda stretching it...)

Think of it as a (kinda dumb 80s) way of portraying the "Druid = Nature" theme.

和ADND祭司一样限制了武器，当然不同神祇KIT可更改，吐槽下矛呢，如果说矛是狩猎武器，那弓呢（X

Bows are hunting tools, and in terms of rural livelihoods it's a thing designed for the specific purpose to kill animals, of which is a huge no-no for Druids.
"Farming" in this case means "Working the land" and "Growing stuffs". (Well, in this case the dart/sling doesn't make sense either... They gotta fit a long-ranged weapon in somehow I guess. v=3=v)

...Again, its the 80s idea of Druids. It's actually surprising that WoTC didn't make them all vegan nowadays... They didn't, right? 0_=\

因为能变肉食动物的素食主义也逗了点吧……