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當然這個帖子後續還有更多更複雜的討論,但我個人是認為,對於任何在5R有更新的文本,5E時期的解釋不應適用,否則諸如樹膚、法反以及大量在5R有更新的規則適用5E的SA會導致5E的規則直接覆寫回來……
目前已有定论是不包含附伤,5e的贤者谏言在5r中仍然沿用
引述: 醉日逐舟 于 2025-03-25, 周二 18:58:31目前已有定论是不包含附伤,5e的贤者谏言在5r中仍然沿用不,JC曰已经都在2024版本失去效力了
引述: 冰原上的咸喵 于 2025-03-26, 周三 11:30:49引述: 醉日逐舟 于 2025-03-25, 周二 18:58:31目前已有定论是不包含附伤,5e的贤者谏言在5r中仍然沿用不,JC曰已经都在2024版本失去效力了在raw语焉不详的情况下,出于获得rai的角度,我会倾向认为如果设计师希望新版gwf能做到这个效果的话,或许会尽可能将这样的变更写出来,而不是模棱两可地变更一下遣词造句。在这个基础上,我能找到的最新官方回答只有老版sac继续沿用(2025.2.26)这一发言
但是之前JC在发售前的直播里明确说了旧版贤者谏言全部废弃了啊 ,沿用是哪里看到的
For the purpose of discussions in the Rules & Game Mechanics forum, SAC is considered RAW. That has been true since it was published, and the clarification I have received is that is still considered RAW for 2024 rules discussions
引述: 怕辣精灵 于 2025-04-01, 周二 00:47:31但是之前JC在发售前的直播里明确说了旧版贤者谏言全部废弃了啊 ,沿用是哪里看到的引述: SillvvaFor the purpose of discussions in the Rules & Game Mechanics forum, SAC is considered RAW. That has been true since it was published, and the clarification I have received is that is still considered RAW for 2024 rules discussionshttps://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/212154-is-the-attack-from-true-strike-both-a-weapon-and?comment=289上个月底,dndbeyond的论坛里工作人员回复说SAC仍然视为RAW,甚至左脑反驳右脑说“SAC is considered RAW. That has been true since it was published”
引述: 醉日逐舟 于 2025-04-01, 周二 02:49:46引述: 怕辣精灵 于 2025-04-01, 周二 00:47:31但是之前JC在发售前的直播里明确说了旧版贤者谏言全部废弃了啊 ,沿用是哪里看到的引述: SillvvaFor the purpose of discussions in the Rules & Game Mechanics forum, SAC is considered RAW. That has been true since it was published, and the clarification I have received is that is still considered RAW for 2024 rules discussionshttps://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/212154-is-the-attack-from-true-strike-both-a-weapon-and?comment=289上个月底,dndbeyond的论坛里工作人员回复说SAC仍然视为RAW,甚至左脑反驳右脑说“SAC is considered RAW. That has been true since it was published”这些工作人员有毒吧吧,旧贤者谏言里好多Rules的文本都大改特改了还怎么As Written,只能说这次我选择听JC了 另按这位这个说法,Ta似乎主要是针对“该板块内的规则讨论仍然将SAC视作RAW”,我感觉保不齐哪里沟通出了问题 ————二编更新:那个帖子底下的玩家似乎已经用wsz自己写的文档自己的话和自己的定义把那个代表wsz的工作人员驳倒(互驳)了,绷不住了