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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:10:05 »
专长上说冲刺时可以在移动攻击后再沿冲刺路径移动,但冲刺时一定是冲到你的对手面前吧..?再沿直线路径移动不是从对手头上踩过去了..?又说不会引发攻击目标的借机攻击...是不是踩过去也不会被AO..?


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快速骑乘攻击(RIDE-BY ATTACK)[一般专长]

先决条件:骑术级数1、骑乘战斗。

效果:骑乘冲刺时,你可以在正常移动与攻击之后再次移动(沿着冲刺的直线路径),但该轮的总移动距离不可超过骑乘速度的两倍。你和坐骑不会引发攻击目标的借机攻击。

特殊:战士可以选择本专长作为其战士奖励专长。


 
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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 回帖 #1 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:13:17 »
但冲刺时一定是冲到你的对手面前吧

冲刺是冲到最近的能攻击到敌人的格子

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« 回帖 #2 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:14:39 »
Suppose you have a flying mount: a griffon. What do
you have to do to use the ride-by tactic in the air or in
swooping down on a target? Do you need to take the Flyby
Attack feat? Or does the Ride-By Attack feat cover flying
mounts as well? For the mount to make a single attack
when riding or flying by, does it also need to somehow gain
a feat? If so, which one?
If the example rider wants to make attacks while flying by
foes, she needs the Ride-By Attack feat and needs to charge
(and fly) in a straight line (see the next question). For the
mount to attack in the same situation, it would need the Flyby
Attack feat. The rider’s Ride-By Attack feat won’t help the
mount attack, and the mount’s Flyby Attack feat does not help
the rider attack.
Note that you have to have a fly speed to take the Flyby
Attack feat. If you merely ride a flying mount, you don’t meet
the prerequisite for the feat. If you can meet the prerequisite,
your flying mount still doesn’t benefit from your Flyby Attack
feat (although it’s possible that a feat or class feature might
allow you to share the feat).
With the rules erratum that prohibits overruns as part
of a charge, the Ride-By Attack feat is now nearly useless.
You must use the charge action to use the Ride-By Attack
feat, and that requires you to travel in a straight line
toward your target. Using the example in the Player’s
Handbook, this would appear to rather specifically mean
along a line from your entire square (or squares if riding a
horse or other mount with a space of 10 feet or greater), to
the target square. Ride-By Attack allows you to continue
moving along the straight line of the charge after your
attack. This would have to mean that at some point you
would enter the square (or squares) of the creature you
attacked. (At least I cannot conceive of any other way it
could be done). Since you cannot enter your foe’s space
unless the creature is already dead, Ride-By Attack is now
pretty much useless if you can’t also overrun the foe. Some
have suggested that you could charge in a manner that
would not bring you through the target creature’s square
(or squares). To do so, you would not be charging directly
toward the target and likely not moving by the shortest
route (also a charge requirement) or attacking it from the
first possible square (another charge requirement). In any
of these cases, you would be breaking the rules for a charge.
Am I wrong about any of this?
No, you’ve got it about right.
When using the Ride-By attack feat, you must conduct your
charge so that you move in a straight line toward the closest
square from which it is possible to attack your chosen foe, so
long as it is a square that allows you to attack and then continue
on in the straight line of the charge. You still must attack your
foe the moment you reach that square. (Although the feat
description doesn’t say so, you and your mount also must move
at least 5 feet after you make your attack to get the benefit of
the feat.) This is a special rule for charging when using the
Ride-By Attack feat. Note that the Flyby Attack feat (discussed
in the previous question) does not require you to move in a
straight line. You merely make a single move and take another
standard action at some point during that move.

也许这两个FAQ能够帮助你……

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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 回帖 #3 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:39:11 »
hence RIDE-BY ATTACK is USELESS!

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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 回帖 #4 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:42:34 »
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但冲刺时一定是冲到你的对手面前吧

冲刺是冲到最近的能攻击到敌人的格子
和我想表达的意思区别不大..我意思是敌人总位于你冲锋直线上..
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« 回帖 #5 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:48:58 »
从第2个FAQ来看这个专长就是个废柴专长丫...T-T
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« 回帖 #6 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 09:50:52 »
我记得那次讨论的结论变成了在四方格地图上某些斜线所走的路线才能做到在对手侧面冲过而又达到冲锋的最短距离要求……然而这很扯,毕竟格子是模拟现实的,格子只有四方向现实方向是同性的。

所以通常我就直接让它踩过去处理了……可以理解为冲得太狠把对手冲得让开了半条路。

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« 回帖 #7 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 10:02:14 »
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但冲刺时一定是冲到你的对手面前吧

冲刺是冲到最近的能攻击到敌人的格子
和我想表达的意思区别不大..我意思是敌人总位于你冲锋直线上..
这个专长只有一击冲死或者不是面对面冲才能继续走

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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 回帖 #8 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 10:26:53 »
http://www.www.goddessfantasy.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=11187

http://www.www.goddessfantasy.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=11144

以前的讨论帖,理解冲锋最重要

根据规则,你要移动到1)离你最近的,2)可以攻击到敌人的方格,所以冲锋到的那一格具有确定性和唯一性,而不是可选的。
一个普遍的误解是,冲锋是向着敌人那一格移动的,而实际上是向着你正好可以对目标作出攻击的,离你目前位置最近的那个方格移动的。

 
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关于专长:快速骑乘攻击的疑惑
« 回帖 #9 于: 2007-04-26, 周四 10:59:52 »
看 FAQ. Ridy by 時選的是可以攻擊又可以繼續直跑的目的格, 是衝鋒的特例.

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When using the Ride-By attack feat, you must conduct your
charge so that you move in a straight line toward the closest
square from which it is possible to attack your chosen foe, so
long as it is a square that allows you to attack and then continue
on in the straight line of the charge.
You still must attack your
foe the moment you reach that square. (Although the feat
description doesn't say so, you and your mount also must move
at least 5 feet after you make your attack to get the benefit of
the feat.) This is a special rule for charging when using the
Ride-By Attack feat.
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