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关于spell turning能否trun ray spell的问题的解释
« 于: 2006-05-01, 周一 14:11:59 »
上个星期在小天的群里讨论起法术反转能不能反转射线的问题,因为法术反转的描述中写道Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells.因为对于touch range spells的范围的理解导致对于ray能不能被反转产生了一定争议,最后觉得这样的问题直接写邮件问wotc比较好,于是便发信问了。

1,Can spell turning turn ray spells? In the description of the spell turning it said that "Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells." And ray spell is a ranged touch spell.

2,When determine the effect of ray spells, it is considered to be a ranged spells or a touch spells or some other spells? Such as for spell turning and other things like feats and skills?

今天收到了回信,内容如下:
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Since it does not specify that it fails to stop only melee touch spells, then it also fails to stop ranged touch spells.

They are considered to be ranged touch spells, which are touch spells.

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于是法术反转不能turn ray,而且ray在各种情况都被考虑成touch spell。
ray真是好强阿……

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关于spell turning能否trun ray spell的问题的解释
« 回帖 #1 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 01:46:35 »
I think this reply is non-sense. Below is excerption from previous FAQ, which I believe is a more reliable source than replies:

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Q:As a DM, I have ruled that spells with the range of
“touch” are the only spells that allow you to use the holding
the charge rule from Chapter 10 of the Player’s Handbook.
My players argued that any spell that uses a ranged touch
attack, such as disintegrate, also qualified. Which is correct?

A:Look at the spell’s range entry. If it doesn’t say “touch,” you
can’t hold the charge. Disintegrate is a medium range spell
100 ft + 10 ft. per caster level), not a touch range spell.
Because disintegrate is a ray, you do indeed make a ranged
touch attack when using the spell, but that’s not the same as a
range of touch.
I think this FAQ clearly states the concept that, touch range spell is a spell which has "touch" in its "range" entry. The description of spell turning specifies "touch range spells", not "touch attack", so I dont think this rule applies to ray spells.
The point is, "touch attack" has two forms, "ranged touch attack" and "melee touch attack", but it's never a range. And "touch" is a range, which means that the target must be within reach of the caster. I think this situation is just a misnomer, "touch attack" happens to use the same word as "touch range", and leads to confusion, just like the case "level" "spell level" and "character level" ^^(If you have read OOTS#12, I think you would know what I mean)

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« 回帖 #2 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 01:52:49 »
By the way, I think wotc should employ fat-fat or blue-blue to do this replying and writing FAQ job, to avoid this kind of non-sense. (HAHA)

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« 回帖 #3 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 08:01:21 »
靠,我看了半天才反应过来你第二句话是啥意思……
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关于spell turning能否trun ray spell的问题的解释
« 回帖 #4 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 08:53:03 »
fat-fat ……  -_-  

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« 回帖 #5 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 09:07:11 »
/me 越来越晕了……

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« 回帖 #6 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 13:58:42 »
Spell Turning只对Targeted Spell有效,而Ray不是,所以Spell Turning对Ray无效。
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« 回帖 #7 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 14:30:20 »
fat-fat,这过于咬文嚼字了吧……

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« 回帖 #8 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 14:33:52 »
fat-fat........../me 233

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« 回帖 #9 于: 2006-05-02, 周二 14:35:18 »
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fat-fat,这过于咬文嚼字了吧……
你忘了你对Single Targeted Spell怎么算的了吗.. -_-