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萌新想问问关于魔宠和牧师领域的两个问题
« 于: 2018-12-26, 周三 10:42:32 »
第一个问题:
魔宠的传递接触法术能力能否传递主人的类法术,比如术士的血统,牧师领域,崇神仪典的类法等。

第二个问题:
如果领域所提供的法术不在牧师法术列表上,牧师在使用卷轴、魔杖等道具时是否视为该法术已添加到牧师法术列表中。比如旅行领域的牧师能否使用飞行术卷轴。之前跑的时候我都默认在表里了,但是后来看看领域的描述好像并没有对此说明。

第三个问题:
之前有和人讨论虔信圣使可以使用非领域法术位准备领域法术,那么以此准备的领域法术能不能用来自发转化。
我的观点是不能,原因是领域的描述里说明领域法术不可转化...听听大佬的意见

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1. 我倾向于不能,因为传导附魔专门说明了只能传类法术和超自然,不能传法术。所以应该专门说明。

2. 看国外论坛的说法是,卷轴不行,魔杖可以
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From the book.
A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st onup. Each day, a cleric can prepare one of the spells from her two domains in that slot. If a domain spell is not on the cleric spell list, a cleric can prepare it only in her domain spell slot.

So the spell is not on the cleric list, but the cleric can cast it.

Spell Trigger: Spell trigger items can be used by anyone whose class can cast the corresponding spell.

The cleric with the domain can cast the spell. Wands.

Spell Completion:To use a spell completion item safely, a character must be of high enough level in the right class to cast the spell already.

The cleric is not of the right class. Scrolls.
Unless you find a divine verson of the scroll.

Total is
Wands Yes
Scrolls No

我自己懒得分,因为你应该没有法阻止PC把自己的领域法术抄进卷轴里,如果自己抄了卷轴还要过UMD就很蠢。

3. 【非领域法术位】上准备的【领域法术】能不能转换?我个人觉得那个Domain spells是指在【领域法术位】的法术,而不是指所有的领域法术,不然我准备的所有领域法术都不能转了,本意应该是单指那个独特的【领域法术位】
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At 1st level, when an ecclesitheurge chooses his cleric domains, he designates one as his primary domain and the other as his secondary domain. An ecclesitheurge can use his non-domain spell slots to prepare spells from his primary domain’s spell list.

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Each day, a cleric can prepare one of the spells from her two domains in that slot. If a domain spell is not on the cleric spell list, a cleric can prepare it only in her domain spell slot. Domain spells cannot be used to cast spells spontaneously.

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A good cleric (or a neutral cleric of a good deity) can channel stored spell energy into healing spells that she did not prepare ahead of time. The cleric can “lose” any prepared spell that is not an orison or domain spell in order to cast any cure spell of the same spell level or lower (a cure spell is any spell with “cure” in its name).

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3. 【非领域法术位】上准备的【领域法术】能不能转换?我个人觉得那个Domain spells是指在【领域法术位】的法术,而不是指所有的领域法术,不然我准备的所有领域法术都不能转了,本意应该是单指那个独特的【领域法术位】

感谢回答~
其实分歧就在于:用非领域法术位准备的领域法术,是否依旧被视为领域法术
我是借鉴了有相同能力的神学家变体,它的职业能力专注领域里有这样一段描述描述:【A theologian can prepare domain spells using her non-domain slots. She cannot use her spontaneous casting ability on domain spells, even if they are prepared in non-domain slots. In all other respects, this works like and replaces the standard cleric domain ability】
所以我认为用非领域法术位准备的领域法术也依旧视为领域法术呢,不过也不完全可靠。
我朋友的观点和你是一致的。

第一个问题答案的理由尚不能让我完全信服吧 不过还是谢谢了
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根据前朝的说法,类法是“使用特殊能力复制出类似法术的效果”,本质就不是施法,当然不能用魔宠传法

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非要说的清楚一点就是
类法术和法术 完全不是一个东西,必须单独列出。

Spell-Like Abilities (Sp): Spell-like abilities, as the name implies, are magical abilities that are very much like spells. Spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance and dispel magic. They do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). Spell-like abilities can be dispelled but they cannot be counterspelled or used to counterspell.

Clay Golem Immunity to Magic (Ex): A clay golem is immune to any spell or spell-like ability that allows spell resistance...
Damage Reduction: Spells, spell-like abilities, and energy attacks (even nonmagical fire) ignore damage reduction.