求助，关于多个变体一起选择的情况

[psp991]

变体里说玩家可以选对个变体，但是他们同时取代相同的标准职业特性。比如魔战士的剑缚变体取代了3级的奥能，巫战士变体则是添加了额外的奥能选择，那这种算是“同时取代相同的标准职业特性（魔战士奥能）”吗？还有比如剑圣取代了9级的魔战士奥能，这个是不是也和剑缚冲突？求大佬们帮忙解答一下，谢谢了

[hellgate11]

变体修改不会同时在特定等级的特定职业能力上生效就不算冲突，所以答案都是否。

[greenskin]

我记得FAQ里关于变体叠加里有一条没翻译的，变体中为大类能力（比如魔战士说奥能）增加可选项目的话，会视为调整了整个大类能力而导致变体不兼容。
虽然最后还是gm说的算。

[elmit]

Archetype Stacking and Altering: What exactly counts as altering a class feature for the purpose of stacking archetypes?

In general, if a class feature grants multiple subfeatures, it’s OK to take two archetypes that only change two separate subfeatures. This includes two bard archetypes that alter or replace different bardic performances (even though bardic performance is technically a single class feature) or two fighter archetypes that replace the weapon training gained at different levels (sometimes referred to as “weapon training I, II, III, or IV”) even though those all fall under the class feature weapon training. However, if something alters the way the parent class feature works, such as a mime archetype that makes all bardic performances completely silent, with only visual components instead of auditory, you can’t take that archetype with an archetype that alters or replaces any of the sub-features. This even applies for something as small as adding 1 extra round of bardic performance each day, adding an additional bonus feat to the list of bonus feats you can select, or adding an additional class skill to the class. As always, individual GMs should feel free to houserule to allow small overlaps on a case by case basis, but the underlying rule exists due to the unpredictability of combining these changes.

以上出自APG的FAQ，添加额外可选奥能应该属于标红段第二种类型（和增加奖励专长种类对标），如果严格遵守规则应该不兼容任何其他影响到奥能的变体
而剑缚和剑圣的状态是这个FAQ最开始那句的情况：替代了两个不同等级互不干扰的奥能，所以应该是可以一起选的
当然FAQ自己都说了看GM了